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Bill Clinton: "Join Hillary In Denver"

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 05:23:38 PM PDT

I just opened an email from former U.S. President Bill Clinton with an invitation to "join Hillary and me in Denver next week for a truly exciting and historic convention."

Bill Clinton, who has never publicly endorsed Senator Barack Obama, used the email to solicit financial donations to help retire his wife's campaign debts. In that vein, the former President mentioned "Hillary" a total of 6 times in a 309 word communication.

In the email, President Clinton recounted the many roles he's played over the years at Democratic National Conventions. He stressed that Hillary is  going to continue fighting for the issues we all care about going forward and emphasized her need for ongoing support in the future.

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Do you think the email from Bill Clinton conveys the appropriate tone and sentiment at this time in the campaign?

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Seizing the "Obama Moment": Which Side Are We On?

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 02:48:00 PM PDT

This post is part of the ongoing "Obama Moment" discussion taking place at the Campaign for America's Future. Check it out here.

The question of how progressives can seize the so-called "Obama Moment," as my colleague Bob Borosage calls it, is an important one - and it is critical that the question be asked right now - before the election, rather than after (This will be the central focus of my questions to Michael Moore in the Meet the Bloggers discussion this Friday). Though the media's horse race coverage and the Left and Right echo chambers "win at all cost" psychology would have us believe that elections are ends unto themselves, our Founders envisioned them as means to ends - instruments by which the people's will is debated, politicians are pressured, and a mandate is crafted.

1992

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 12:28:52 PM PDT

So, a little poll from Zogby comes out and lots of people are in freakout mode, and Kos has front-paged about how silly that is.

Good.

Let me add one little bit o' info to the fire for each of you to chew on...

Anybody here remember 1992?

There is one very good thing about the Clinton controversy

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 12:22:16 PM PDT

As I see it, there is only the one thing, so this won't be a substantive Diary with a lot of documentation, links and evidence.

A lot of us are holding our breath, waiting to see what Hillary and Bill will say at the convention - and I strongly doubt that I am the only one who felt some degree of dismay when it turned out that Hillary and Bill will be speaking on two of the four nights at the convention.  We all know why Barack has agreed to this; he is walking a tightrope - and very carefully.

Some have questioned whether there is a plot afoot; either to steal the nomination or damage Obama enough to ensure that he is a one-term president.  It is at least arguable that the Clintons have done little to allay those fears - thus far.

BETRAYAL - Clinton Brother Meets McCain Advisor

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 10:38:38 AM PDT

The Clintons and their people no longer deserve the benefit of the doubt with regard to putting their loyalty to the party above their pursuit of personal legacy. Two evenings ago, Tony Rodham and others met with...

Obama slaying Republican dragons virtually alone

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 11:55:37 AM PDT

Just saw this on HuffPost in article "Progressives Sound Alarm About Obama Campaign" quoting John Aravosis at America Blog:

There is an incredible discontent out there with the way this campaign is being run. The fact that the discontent isn't being recognized, isn't being assuaged, is disturbing. People aren't worried about the election, they're becoming despondent about it. They're not motivated to work twice as hard, they instead feel as if they've had the wind knocked out of them. This is far beyond a healthy skepticism as to whether Obama can win. While Obama's attacks today on McCain are heartening, we need to see more of it. People need to see that Barack Obama has as big of balls as John McCain and, well, Hillary Clinton.

should Bill speak at the convention? after this?

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 10:52:48 AM PDT

No it is not a casual remark or anything. He purposely spent time praising the nominee of the party that worked day and night to impeach him just days before his own party's convention. Full discosure: I LOATH the Clintons. I guess I have nothing to catharsisize at the convention, but Bill might have just begun:

Can Obama Trust the Clintons?

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:48:11 AM PDT

That's the big question. The way Hillary skewered Obama during the Democratic Primary with pointed statements that McInsane is more qualified to be president leaves serious room for doubt.

More after the jump.

McCain has a very good record on Energy

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:19:45 AM PDT

He does. His record is the best out of any republican in a long long time. Either he or Obama would be great at this issue, even though I prefer Obama, Obviously.

As you guys prepare to rip a hole in me, consider the source. President Clinton, in his "who cares about the party tour", continues to throw his half-hearted praise onto Obama. Link to Praise .I am one who believes that he was a hell of a President. Record surpluses and peace. Jobs and prosperity. Homes for many. But I must say, it doesn't seem as though he has ever cared about the party. His centrist politics have always made it seem as though there was something wrong with being a democrat. and his affair has delivered the country to the Neo-Cons on a silver platter. It gets me that even after he was given a speaking role on the same night as the V.P. Hillarys name will be placed in nomination, against the best interest of the party and Obama. and that silly tag line about sexism was allowed in the platform, he continues to act this way. Is it too much to ask for support?

Quote below the fold.........

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Is it too much to ask for support

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Do Me a Favor, Bill. . .

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:39:56 AM PDT

Don't do me any favors.

Former president Bill Clinton was in Las Vegas yesterday to open the National Clean Energy Conference, a confab of industry and government leaders.

Clinton championed tax incentives to develop solar, wind and other alternative forms of energy and called on industry to "rethink the economics of energy."

He also, as has become his wont of late, backhanded Barack Obama.

Lady Clinton

Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 09:34:42 AM PDT

copyright © 2008 Betsy L. Angert.  BeThink.org

Throughout the ages, life has been but an allegory for the Shakespearean drama Macbeth.  When people observe the strength of a wedded woman, they wonder.  Might she be the spouse behind the man?  Couples whose passion for power burns brightly may be reminiscent of those who perform in the tragedy played out on many a theatre stage.  A pair, married partners, in the present, may be as characters in a revival of the this best-known of William Shakespeare's tragic productions.  The tale, written in centuries long past, often evokes reverie of today's truths.  Only the characters differ.  

If this dramatic piece, were to be performed today, possibly, Hillary and Bill Clinton would be cast as the main characters.  The two are slightly more modern, and a bit less morose than the actors in years gone by.  

Starting to Wonder about Obama Game Plan

Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 11:13:02 AM PDT

Maybe I'm just in concern troll mode, but I really am starting to wonder about Obama's game plan.

"Left-socialism do we need it?"

Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:48:19 PM PDT

Recently a group that I belong to, made up of Americans, British, Dutch and Canadians got into a discussion of left and right leaning socialism.

While it was evident from the beginning which were Americans from their shouting matches over the benefits of electing Obama or McCain, there was several intelligent individuals who condemned America's left-socialism and claimed it was the cause of all our problems today.

Played right, the Clintons could do a great job for Obama

Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:03:34 PM PDT

A lot of folks have been bemoaning the fact that Bill and Hillary Clinton will be getting such prominent places at the convention.  Most of the attention has focused on their egos, wanting to hog the attention and possibly set up a 2012 run for Hillary.  

I'd like to offer another possible take on the scenario: Bill and Hillary will do what they do best: attack, attack, attack.  What's more, Obama will not take any heat for it.  The reasons are below...

Obama on "safe, legal, and rare"; & don't forget porno

Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 05:28:22 PM PDT

    The DNC 2008 draft platform (courtesy of Pam's House Blend) says

    The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion, ...
    ...We also recognize that such health care and education help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for abortions.

, but one wonders what happened to the "rare" part of "safe, legal, and rare". Bill Clinton invented that--the best thing he ever said--; so if unlike the 2004 platform, the '08 platform doesn't even include "rare", Dems will look like they're

    less sexually restrained than Bill Clinton.

    Is that something the party can afford these days, especially after John Edwards' zipper problem? Probably not.
    --And "We also recognize..." is sort of tepid language, I must say. Again, where's "rare"? It was there in the '04 platform...

    (much more below)

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The elephant: the Clinton-McCain conspiracy!

Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 10:55:20 AM PDT

Its the elephant in the room that noone wants to talk about.
The teaming up of Hillary/Bill and John that could turn the
election upside down.  Don't discount it.  The Clintons are
so into their own personas that this scenario could happen.

My personal experience about the importance of letting Clinton be nominated at the convention

Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 08:04:56 AM PDT

In 1992, I was fortunate enough to be very active in the Paul Tsongas for President campaign (although I was only 20 at the time).  I was his coordinator in Houston and was elected a delegate for him.  I was a die-hard supporter who wanted to keep fighting long after he had suspended his campaign.  I was also very angry at Bill Clinton because of his campaign tactics (as is almost universal among the supporters of a losing candidate).  Although Paul wasn't formally placed into nomination, he was given a speaking slot right before the nominations and he informed his delegates they were free to vote anywhere they wanted.  I, like about half of the Tsongas delegates, voted for Paul.  This gave me a real sense of closure and I was then much more willing to fully support Clinton in the general election than if I had been basically forced to vote for Clinton (against my wishes) at the convention.

WHEN HAS IT EVER BEEN SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THE CLINTONS

Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 07:43:21 AM PDT

Inside information from a friend now heading to the Convention with the development of the Clintons going to the Convention and now a Ballot from the floor conversation prompted this dairy entry.

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CLINTONS AT THE CONVENTION

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